Overview & Scrutiny Panel


Minutes of the meeting held on 23 May 2017 at 7.00 pm in Council Chamber, Council Offices, Cecil Street, Margate, Kent.





Councillor D Saunders (Chairman); Councillors G Coleman-Cooke, Ashbee, Campbell, Connor, Curran, Dexter, Dixon, Grove, Jaye-Jones, Martin, Parsons and Rusiecki


In Attendance:

Councillors Brimm, K Coleman-Cooke, M Saunders, Shonk, Taylor and Taylor-Smith




116.       Apologies for Absence


Apologies were received from Councillor Falcon and Councillor Dennis.




117.       Declarations of Interest


There were no declarations of interest.




118.       Minutes of Previous Meeting


Councillor Campbell proposed, Councillor Connor seconded and Members agreed the minutes as a correct record of the meeting that was held on 24 April 2017.




119.       Establishing the OSP Work Programme for 2017/18


Members were in agreement that the Panel should reconstitute the 2016/17 sub-groups for them to work to the same terms of reference and with the same membership size.


Councillor Campbell proposed, Councillor Jaye-Jones seconded and Members:


1.    Unanimously agreed political proportionality when setting up the sub groups.


2.    Agreed the membership size of seven per sub group;


3.    Reconstituted the Community Safety Partnership Working Party, Corporate Performance Review Working Party and Dreamland Working Group;


3.    Agreed the terms of reference as reflected in Annex 2 to the Panel report;


4.    Agreed that before any consideration of substantive business any re-established Groups would be required to review their respective terms of reference at their first meeting and report any suggested changes to the next available Overview and Scrutiny Panel for approval;


5.    Agreed that before any consideration of substantive business all Groups would be required to complete the project template at their first meeting and report the details back to the next available Overview and Scrutiny Panel for approval;


Councillor Dexter proposed, Councillor Campbell seconded and the Panel further agreed the following recommendation:


1.    To keep a watching brief on the work in progress regarding the development of a new health delivery strategy for East Kent by the East Kent Hospitals University Foundation Trust (EKHUFT).




120.       Petition on 2017 Parking Charges


A Member asked whether the Chairman would be allowing public speaking during discussion of this item as there was some public interest. In response the Chairman advised Members that although initially there had been some interest from the public to speak on the parking item, they later declined to take up the opportunity. This meant that only the organiser of the petition would be speaking to any of the items.


The discussion of the item then began with Mr Roy Irving being invited by the Panel Chairman to address the meeting at which point Mr Irving presented the petition on 2017 parking charges.


Thereafter the Panel discussed the petition as requested by Full Council and Members made the following comments:



Councillor Brimm, Cabinet Member for Operational Services suggested that in debating the petition, the Panel should consider the proposals that were included in the briefing note that was tabled at the meeting.


The Chairman then gave Members a moment to study the proposals outlined within the briefing note, which are attached at Annex 1 to the minutes. Further debate was had and Members made the following comments:



In response to Gavin Waite, Director of Operational Services gave the following response:


·         The 2017/18 fees and charges were considered by the Overview & Scrutiny Panel before Cabinet recommended these to Full Council for adoption;

·         Through the briefing note tabled at the Panel meeting (Annex 1 to the minutes) the Executive had offered option 1 and option 2 from which the Panel could recommend a new charge structure for the five parks referred in the note;

·         Option 1 would lead a loss of income of £10,000 and option 2 would cost council £20,000;

·         Officers could not give guarantees that savings could be found within Operational Services to absorb the loss if Council reverted the parking charges to the 2016/17 levels.


Tim Howes, Director of Corporate Governance advised the Panel that if Members recommended that Council reverted to the 2016/17 parking charges, they also would need to consider recommending alternative revenue sources to compensate for the loss of income resulting from such a recommendation.


Councillor Jaye-Jones proposed that the Panel recommended Option 2 in the briefing note to Cabinet however the Chairman advised that Members were already debating initial motion and so could not debate another, without resolving the first.


Councillor Campbell proposed, Councillor Ashbee seconded and the Panel recommended that Cabinet revert to the 2016/17 parking charges for the five seasonal car parks and to find the resulting shortfall from adjustments in other service areas.




121.       Future Options for the Council's Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) service


Gavin Waite introduced the report and highlighted the following:



Members sought clarification on a number of issues as follows:



In response Gavin Waite made offered the following explanations:


Councillor Campbell proposed, Councillor Ashbee seconded and Members agreed to recommend that Cabinet adopts Option 4 which is summarised below as:


“To go into a partnership with BT for them to be responsible for all camera upgrades including equipment and network, maintenance and transmission costs. Canterbury City Council to monitor our cameras in their control centre at Canterbury.”




122.       Forward Plan and Exempt Cabinet Report List for 10 May 2017 - 30 November 2017


Members requested that a report on “Risk Based Verification policy for the administration of Housing Benefit / Council Tax Support claims” be presented at a future Panel meeting for post scrutiny to assess the impact of the new policy.






Meeting concluded: 8.00 pm


















Briefing Note

18th May 2016

Re: Parking Fees & Charges

Briefing author: Trevor Kennett, Interim Head of Operational Services

The Council has received a petition from 829 valid signatories relating to the parking fees and charges increase agreed in the Council’s budget for 2017 – 2019, which came in to effect on the 1st April 2017.

The petition stated:

“We the undersigned petition the Council to: We want Thanet District Council to reconsider their increase in parking charges for 2017. Especially in relation to the increase in off street car park charges. Thanet relies on tourism and visitors and the excessive price increases will have a detrimental effect on visitor numbers. The increase for the first hour of parking from £1.60 to £4.00 is not justified and as well as deterring visitors it may also stop people shopping locally where the car parks are in town centres. Thanet needs to encourage tourism and these new charges can only have a negative effect.”


  1. Parking charges have not significantly increased since 2009.


  1. The average price increase across the car parks, excluding the 5 seasonal and 1 all-year round car parks is 20p per hour


  1. The increase from £1.60 to £4.00 only affects 5 seasonal car parks and 1 all-year-round car park across the district.


  1. The 5 seasonal car parks that have the new £4 one hour charge between 1 April – 31 October are:
    1. Albion Street, Broadstairs.
    2. Chandos Square, Broadstairs.
    3. Broadstairs Harbour, Broadstairs.
    4. Joss Bay, Broadstairs.
    5. Marine Esplanade, Ramsgate.



1 Hour

2 Hours

3 Hours

4 Hours

5 Hours/All Day

Current Charge 2017/18






New Charge Option 1






New Charge Option 2







5.   The above seasonal car parking charges are 1 hour £4, 2 hours £6, 3 hours £8, 4 hours £10 and all day £12.

Winter charges on the above 5 car parks vary between 80p per hour, £1.10 per hour and £1.20 per hour up to the maximum of 5 hours which gives 24 hours parking.

  1. Dreamland, Margate has the new £4 one hour charge all year round.
    1. The charges are 1 hour £4, 2 hours £6, 3 hours £8, 4 hours £10 and all day £12.

The following car parks across the district are not affected by the new £4 charge

See Appendix 1

It is worth noting the following for the majority of our car parks on this list, that:


Pricing modelling

The 2017 – 2018 budgets was agreed and based on projected income modelling and based on the front loading of the new £4 charge.

We have re-run the pricing modelling based on a reduced £2 charge for the first hour and then keeping the back loading of £12 for all day parking.

The projected loss of income across the budget for the 6 car parks would be approximately £20,000.

We have re-run the pricing modelling based on a reduced £2.50 charge for the first hour and then keeping the back loading of £12 for all day parking.

The projected loss of income across the budget for the 6 car parks would be approximately £10,000.